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Jubiläumsrätsel - 1 Jahr Rätselportal

(Published on 1. November 2009, 00:00 by Richard)

Jigsaw-Symbol-Sudokakuro

Happy birthday!!

Place the digits 0 to 9 in every row, column, bold outlined area and the 10 yellow cells.

The numbers in the grid are the usual kakuro-sums.

The meaning of the small black and white squares have to be found by the puzzlers, but they mean either 'the difference between two neighboring digits is always x' or 'one neighboring digit divided by the other one is always y'. The meaning of the two symbols is different.

Solution code: The marked column, followed by the marked row. Ignore the grey kakuro-cells.

Last changed on on 6. November 2009, 19:21

Solved by zhergan, ibag, saskia-daniela, skywalker, Alex, berni, Senior, Hansjo, Eisbär, sandmoppe, flaemmchen, pin7guin, zuzanina, Statistica, Mody, AnnaTh, Calavera, Javier Rebottaro, Laje6, Luigi, pwahs, ... skypper, moss, Zzzyxas, gsabanci, sf2l, tuace, bismarck, Danielle, bob, Julianl, Matt, adam001, Nothere, misko, Krokant, NikolaZ, EKBM, polar, Nick Smirnov, helle, damasosos92, eggfriedcheese, CJK
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on 25. July 2022, 06:41 by Nick Smirnov
Penpa:
https://tinyurl.com/22ornh2v

on 1. June 2017, 21:25 by Danielle
Auch nach all den Jahren noch sehr schön. Und nicht zu schwer. Ich hatte mich gleich zu Beginn vertan und einen Widerspruch, aber der zweite Versuch lief glatt durch.

on 16. September 2014, 19:08 by Senor Dingdong
Nachdem das Rätsel gelöst war, der Code nicht stimmte und noch ein paar nicht eindeutige Felder existierten, habe ich lange gebraucht den Fehler zu finden. Es gab nämlich keinen! Nach eingehender Lektüre der Anleitung musste ich dann feststellen, dass ich die Gebiete nicht berücksichtigt habe:)
Danach ging es etwas einfacher...
Erstaunlich, dass sich diese Regel nur auf Zeile 3-6 auswirkt.
Jedenfalls ein sehr schönes Rätsel und es wundert mich, dass manche es nicht mit 100% bewertet haben.

on 15. December 2009, 10:13 by rubbeng
I like this puzzle

Last changed on 6. November 2009, 19:30

on 6. November 2009, 19:29 by Richard
@Chalb: if you want to make me shy, go on like this. ;-) I think what you described is my 'signature'.

on 6. November 2009, 17:00 by CHalb
Richard, in this puzzle I again recognized what I often like very much in your puzzles: You explore inherent relationships and the resulting laws. Whow, that sounds important! What I mean: After you have decided about the basic parameters (Pünktchen/Kropki, realm of numbers (1..9, 0..9…) or the shape of areas and so on) there are certain characteristic qualities which are special just for this constellation. And you find and use them and finally teach them to me as solver. (Maybe the order is just the other way round: You have ideas and search for the right parameters. But that is not essential to me.)

Of course other authors in the portal and other artists in other disciplines do this as well. But yours I normally like. They are for me especially interesting because they deal with natural numbers or – in the case of your creative jigsaw- or chaos-puzzles – simple geometric areas. And in this case we have both of them.

on 2. November 2009, 16:28 by Mody
Eines der schönsten Rätsel :)

on 2. November 2009, 16:19 by Statistica
Very nice. In every part (also the confusing start ;-)) a reflection of one year puzzle-portal! THX to Richard and others for the exciting puzzles in the last year :-))))

on 2. November 2009, 12:42 by pin7guin
I am looking forward to 1. November 2010! :-) ;-) :-)

on 2. November 2009, 00:41 by Eisbär
This is a super-Rätsel! I'm sorry for the fact that I tested this one and also didn't see the forgotten dot :-D

on 1. November 2009, 20:22 by berni
Really worth a birthday present! :-)

on 1. November 2009, 17:50 by Alex
I really liked this one (especially the first time round;))

on 1. November 2009, 16:44 by Richard
Hmmm... The mistake was due to my effort (in the end) to make it a bit harder. Therefor I exchanged a set of digits in a part of the puzzle. By doing so, I forgot that one dot. And as I take a closer look to it now, I think I have made it a bit easier instead of harder...

on 1. November 2009, 16:35 by ibag
No problem!

on 1. November 2009, 16:33 by zhergan
I also want to apologize for my earlier comment. Last night I checked my solution twice but in both I missed that one dot also. I was really tired and sleepy since the local time was almost 3:00 A.M. Sorry for that:(...

on 1. November 2009, 16:32 by ibag
Thank you, very nice puzzle ;-D

on 1. November 2009, 16:13 by Richard
I truly apologize, that especially in this 'jubiläum' puzzle there was one dot missing. It is fixed now. :-(

on 1. November 2009, 15:59 by Richard
All dots are in the grid. I forgot to write that, but in my puzzles that's always the case. Since it is only solved one time correct, I will take (another) close look to the puzzle if there is a mistake.

on 1. November 2009, 15:01 by Alex
add myself to ibag's group 3 for now.;)
Twice through (very slowly and carefully), assuming all points are given, and running into contradictions each time.

Last changed on 1. November 2009, 14:46

on 1. November 2009, 14:46 by ibag
So far I agree. But I tried it four (!) times (assuming all dots are given) and every time struggled with contradictions.
So there obviously are three possibilities: 1. Not all dots are given. 2. There is a mistake in the puzzle (maybe leading to missing dots). 3. I'm too stupid for this puzzle. ;-)

on 1. November 2009, 14:10 by berni
Richard wrote "Because of the other meaning of the symbols, you can easily overlook eliminations when there is no symbol placed between two cells."

From this I conclude, that all dots are given... I think, this should be mentioned in the description too.

on 1. November 2009, 13:22 by ibag
My problem is: If I assume all dots to be given (and I really hope this to be a rule, although it is not said explicitely), I get contradictions. But if I don't there are too much possibilities. I think I will try it a third time ...

@Richard: I think it's really important to know, if all dots are given.

Last changed on 1. November 2009, 12:37

on 1. November 2009, 12:35 by Mody
Frage: Sind auch alle möglichen Punkte eingetragen?
Are all possible dots inside?

on 1. November 2009, 06:39 by Richard
Because this is a 'jubiläumsrätsel', I have made it not too hard: it is not so hard to find the meaning of the symbols. But be careful, the sting might be in the tail. Because of the other meaning of the symbols, you can easily overlook eliminations when there is no symbol placed between two cells. This one is test solved by Arvid and a colleague of mine and they both needed restarts too...

Last changed on 1. November 2009, 03:12

on 1. November 2009, 03:12 by saskia-daniela
Ich hab ne super-tolle Lösung, die erst mal "richtig" aussieht, aber der Code sagt was anderes... Muß wohl auch nochmal ran :(

Last changed on 1. November 2009, 02:48

on 1. November 2009, 02:23 by ibag
That's nice. Finding the meaning of the symbols is quite easy, but I made a mistake later on. I think I will have a fresh start tomorrow, too.

Last changed on 1. November 2009, 02:03

on 1. November 2009, 01:54 by zhergan
Thanks for the anniversary puzzle. Great construction. I liked it very much. I think it is not so hard to find the meanings of the symbols after your hint. But one must be very careful. Regards,

@Gabi: Just by investigating my solution I can say yes.

Zafer

on 1. November 2009, 01:14 by pin7guin
Lieber Richard, vielen Dank! Super Idee! Aber irgendetwas mache ich falsch. Ich fange morgen nochmal frisch an. Gute Nacht!

on 1. November 2009, 01:11 by ibag
Richard, thank you very much for this nice "Jubiläumsrätsel" - which I had expected, of course ;-)

I wonder if all possible black and white points are given?

Kind regards, Gabi

Difficulty:3
Rating:96 %
Solved:112 times
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ID:0000BN

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